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Sorry, this was my error here. I did not notice that it was on the wrong board. GPSLeo (talk) 07:45, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

Question about 2 of your speedy deletion requests

Hello, Adamant1. I saw your speedy deletion requests for the following categories:

• Category:Collections of photographs by library (as opposed to Category:Photographs by library)
• Category:Collections of photographs by museum (as opposed to Category:Photographs by museum)

Was there a discussion to eliminate these categories and use the other names instead? I think we need to keep them. "Photographs by <institution>" can mean different things:

• Photographs owned/displayed by the institution (collection categories)
• Photographs of the institution
• Photographs acquired from the institution (source categories)

I've always disliked having to use "Collections of" for some kinds of things but not others, but I think it's needed for the kinds of media that Commons hosts so that the listed things don't get confused.

For example, in Category:Photographs by library I see categories with the following wording:

• Images from
• Photographs by
• Photographs from
• Photographs in

In Category:Photographs by museum, I see all of those plus:

• Media from
• Photographs kept by

The "from" wording is used for source categories, but possibly for other things as well.

Anyway, for now I have declined the speedy request and turned the "Collections of" categories into redirects. Please let me know if there was a discussion about this. Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 10:18, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

@Auntof6: There was no discussion, but the problem with the categories was that they contained subcats like Category:Photographs in the Austrian National Library which IMO isn't a "collection" in any meaningful way. IMO a "collection" should actually be one, like Category:George W. Cook Dallas & Texas Image Collection. Not just a category that has one or two random photographs that happen to be housed in the same library. Plus the proper category for photograph collections seems to be Category:Photograph collections anyway. Not Category:Collections of photographs.

So it seemed natural to delete the categories with that and the categories only containing categories for "photographs in whatever library" instead of actual collections. I don't care if they are redirected for now though. But ultimately they should be renamed to "photograph collections by library/museum." I just forgot to do it at the time. Hopefully that explains things. --Adamant1 (talk) 10:40, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Just so long as we get back to some name that is less ambiguous, I'm good. I personally would go with Category:Photograph collections by library etc.: clear, not over-wordy, and will easily cover both the case where there is a single, undifferentiated collection (e.g. a small history museum, or even a large one like MOHAI in Seattle which as far as I know does not break down its million-plus photos into separate "collections") and where there is a formal breakdown into multiple collections. - Jmabel ! talk 20:41, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

@Jmabel: I created Category:Photograph collections by library. I still think there should be a clear distinction in the category system for a category containing random "photographs in a library" versus a legitimate, named collection of photographs that are being stored in a library. And I'm not sure how there just be a bunch of overlap between that and Category:Photographs by library. It seems like you have a use for it though. So whatever. I'll leave actually putting stuff in the category to other people but it would be good if it was used exclusively for actual, named collections. --Adamant1 (talk) 23:06, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

No, I don't see any particular use of something called Category:Photographs by library, unless it were to be a disambiguation. - Jmabel ! talk 23:14, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

@Jmabel: I guess the question would be if there's any photographs in a library that aren't part of a "collection." If not, then it seems like having the word "collection" in the name of the category is pointlessly redundant. Just like there isn't a Category:Vehicles with paint because most, if not all, vehicles are painted. Otherwise I don't see why Category:Photographs by library wouldn't be a useful category. Really, it should be in both cases unless I'm totally missing something here. --Adamant1 (talk) 23:24, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Because people would misunderstand and add photographs of the library. - Jmabel ! talk 19:01, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

Categories

I read your most recent answer on my page. If the trouble is having categories with "too small" a number of images in them, we can have a deal here. Can we agree not to create any category by year unless we have at least, say, two items? I can agree on that. Although, we have at least one exception: the High medieval period, when documents are so rare that even finding one document that can be dated in one precise year deserves to be recorded. However, even if we cannot find an agreement with that second part, quite the fact that these documents are so incredibly rare, would not involve too big a mass of files, so I could pass on it. --User:G.dallorto (talk) 13:44, 25 August 2025 (UTC)

@G.dallorto: That would be my prefence. With years where there probably isn't more then one image due to the rarity or whatever then they should just categorized "by decade" though. Although I agree that the year should be recored somewhere, just not through a category. But there is a way around that by organizing images "by year" but based on the next topic or whatever up. Like "1467 fresco of Italy" instead of "1467 fresco of Milan" or whatever. Since there's probably enough images to justify it at that point, just not that locally. Then the file can also go in a "fresco of Milan by decade" category. --Adamant1 (talk) 13:53, 25 August 2025 (UTC)

Cinderella stamps of Switzerland

Your modification from yesterday has been cancelled. First: Cinderella stamps are not all "adhesive". Second: for all other countries, they are categorised "Stamps of XXX" (not "Adhesive stamps of XXX"). On the other hand, there is a debate on this subject here. Greetings. MHM (talk) 14:44, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

@MHM55: It's hard for me to have an opinion about it since you didn't say exactly what categories your talking about but cinderella stamps are usually, if not exclusive, adhesive stamps. Otherwise I'd like to see an example. Although I agree that there's a discussion but there was also a previous discussion last year, Commons:Categories for discussion/2022/06/Category:Philately, where the consensus was to move images of postage stamps to categories specifically for them.

There's also Commons:Categories "We should not classify items which are related to different subjects in the same category. There should be one category per topic; multi-subject categories should be avoided. The category name should be unambiguous and not homonymous." And I'd argue dumping everything into "stamps" goes against that. But regardless, those two things didn't magically get ignored now just because someone started a new discussion. So don't be surprised if your edits get reverted. Although I would still be interested to see some examples of non-adhesive cinderella stamps on here. Since I can't remember ever coming across any and I've editing in the area for 6 years now. So can you provide some? --Adamant1 (talk) 14:54, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

@MHM55: Never mind about the adhesive stamp thing specifically. since I responded to it in the discussion, but I'm not going to ignore the prior consensus or guideline about things not being put in ambiguous categories in the meantime since your clearly wrong that sealing stamps aren't adhesive and it's tangential to the wider issue I'm dealing with anyway. Thanks for the message though. Please respond in the CfD from now on. --Adamant1 (talk) 15:03, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

Can you provide the link to this document?

File:Hamilton City California - The New Home of the Sugar Beet (page 01).jpg Thank you, -- Ooligan (talk) 02:46, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

@Ooligan: http://archives.csuchico.edu/digital/collection/coll24/id/1575 --Adamant1 (talk) 08:34, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

@Ooligan: --Adamant1 (talk) 08:34, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

@Adamant1, Can you add that link to the 31 uploaded pages of this informational pamphlet about Hamilton City and sugar beet farming? -- Ooligan (talk) 09:15, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

@Ooligan: I would have done that but It's not clear to me if I should add a link to the main page for the book, the pages for individual pages, or the urls for the actual pages. You happen to know which one should be the source or does it even matter? --Adamant1 (talk) 09:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

@Adamant1, the link you provided above would be good for all 31 pages. The link lists the cover page and more links the other pages. All your uploads would be more valuable to others with a link to the source. Thanks, -- Ooligan (talk) 09:32, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

@Ooligan: OK. I'll add it to the files when I have some free time. I usually don't add a link to eBay because they delete listings after a couple of months but I guess there's no reason I can't do it for things from other sources. --Adamant1 (talk) 09:35, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

You may already know this. To get a permanent archive link to any webpage, You can copy the eBay link (or any other source) and paste it here: https://web.archive.org/ - on the right side of this page is "Save Page Now". Just paste link and click "save page." After a short wait, you will have an archival link that will likely outlast most webpages.

• Like that page says, "Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future." Best regards, --

Ooligan (talk) 10:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

File:Orlando - Large Letter Postcard (5670459459).jpg

File:Orlando - Large Letter Postcard (5670459459).jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

(Oinkers42) (talk) 17:58, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

"Category:LGBT pride in small towns" removals reverted

Your removal of cities and towns from the category "LGBT pride in small towns" has been reverted as there was no discussion or communication on your part for the justification for removal. Any attempt to remove them again without discussion/dialog may be considered an edit war.

While we are volunteers here on Wikipedia there is still an expectation of professionalism and communication especially when making disruptive edits that could have the appearance of vandalism or homophobia. The category has been renamed LGBTQ pride in cities & towns under 30,000. If you still have issue with the category please leave your view points on the category's talk page. Myotus (talk) 16:56, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

@Myotus: No need for the smug tone. This isn't Wikipedia and per Commons:Categories "there should be one category per topic; multi-subject categories should be avoided. The category name should be unambiguous and not homonymous." "Small" is obviously meaningless. Maybe it's different on Wikipedia, but people don't usually have to discuss up-merging a single category that clearly goes against the guidelines. I'm not going to waste my time on your bossy, rude nonsense by doing anything with LGBTQ pride in cities & towns under 30,000 but I'd say the same goes there. Under 30000 what and why is that the cut off point? Maybe put some thought into how you create categories and read the guidelines next time before you do it. Instead of just acting rude when someone is trying to make a good faithed effort to fix your mistakes. Thanks for the condescending message though. --Adamant1 (talk) 17:12, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

Wow, yet another user who can't be bothered to use basic civility or follow the guidelines because their to busy being smug and bossing people around. Go figure. I really do wonder why I bother sometimes. --Adamant1 (talk) 17:20, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Categories for discussion/2025/08/Category:LGBTQ pride in cities & towns under 30,000 --Adamant1 (talk) 17:34, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

Your edits on Category:Bemidji Pride have been reverted

Your removal of the categories has been reverted as there was no discussion or communication on your part for the justification for removal. It appears that you are vandalizing the category for a vendetta. Pursuing this course of action may get you blocked. Myotus (talk) 23:15, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

See your talk page. It's not vandalism to add a category for organizations to one for an organization. There's nothing to discuss there either. Stop threating me. --Adamant1 (talk) 23:16, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

I have left your edit "Category:LGBT organizations in Minnesota" in Bemidji Pride and returned "Category:LGBTQ pride in cities & towns under 30,000" as that issue is still unresolved. 23:47, 1 September 2025 (UTC) Myotus (talk) 23:47, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

@Myotus: Just because there's an ongoing CfD for the main category doesn't mean any single category has to, or should, remain in the category until it's concluded and having a category for an organization in ones for events is clearly wrong. Your free to add Category:LGBTQ pride in cities & towns under 30,000 to the category for the actual pride events but please skip the edit waring, threats, and ownership BS. You aren't the arbitrator of everything having to do with LGBTQ subjects on here and you can't just bully me into doing what you want. Thanks. --Adamant1 (talk) 23:52, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Bemidji Pride is an organization AND an event. 00:03, 2 September 2025 (UTC) Myotus (talk) 00:03, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

@Myotus: Yeah, and there's separate categories for the organization and events that shouldn't be put in the same parent category for pride parades. What's your point? No offense, but I'm seriously starting to think you have some competency issues here. Apparently your to busy flipping out and acting like a bully to understand the basics of how categorization works. Maybe step back from this, read the guidelines, and chill out. --Adamant1 (talk) 00:04, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

The photos are of the Bemidji Pride festival not photos of the Bemidji Pride organization so it should not go into organization. A cursory glance at other non-LGBT parades and festivals show that they are not typically categorized under organization unless the parade or festival is named for the sponsoring organization aka Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. Myotus (talk) 01:40, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what the photographs are of. There's nothing stopping someone from creating a category for the organization if they want to. That's how people do it all the time! that's why I said to read the guidelines and chill out. Your making an issue out of something that literally no one cares about and people do all the time. --Adamant1 (talk) 01:46, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

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Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry. If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

• File:1908 one penny token, Haggi Chapter No. 14, Royal Arch Masons, Ann Arbor, Michigan. (19089221742).jpg

And also:

• File:Back side of souvenir shekel. (18618958714).jpg
• File:Elks token -- good for one 5c. cigar. Ann Arbor, Michigan. (18210284715).jpg
• File:Fred1 (19409722558).jpg
• File:Glass dosage cup from Mann Bros. Druggists, Ann Arbor, Michigan. 100+ years old. (19385953552).jpg
• File:J. F. Wuerth Co -- token -- reverse. (18206269992).jpg
• File:J. F. Wuerth Co. -- token -- "Keep me so you don't forget the best place for boy's suits," Ann Arbor, Michigan. (18209930455).jpg
• File:Kadette Junior portable radio, with cord and packing box. Radio was assembled in Ann Arbor, Michigan. (17618332034).jpg
• File:Lewis Jewelers, 2000 W. Stadium, Ann Arbor, Michigan. Location of the original Ann Arbor McDonalds drive-in. (19700304599).jpg
• File:Lucky penny in a horse shoe design advertises Fred Brown's saloon, "Tontine and Goldmine," 111 North Main Street, Ann Arbor, Michigan. (19571559836).jpg
• File:Mary Hathaway and others at Old Fourth Ward Spring Party, June 4, 2015. (17887278954).jpg
• File:Mary Hathaway at name tag table, Old Fourth Ward Spring Party, June 4,2015. (17887286824).jpg
• File:Model version of a lumber carrier. (18254727384).jpg
• File:Perry School as seen from rooftop garden of new Munger Graduate Residence Hall. (19803673861).jpg
• File:Pinback convention button from Ann Arbor Elks lodge 325 depicts the University of Michigan's old University Hall -- "The Seat of Knowledge." (18497163446).jpg
• File:Post card of soccer game in Michigan Stadium. (19044226713).jpg
• File:President Obama at Zingerman's in Ann Arbor, April, 2014. (19318061730).jpg
• File:President Obama at Zingerman's in Ann Arbor, Michigan, with traveling folk singer Richard Shindell -- April, 2014. (18883501124).jpg
• File:Red Catalin Kadette Clockette radio (18527783704).jpg
• File:Royal Arch Masons, back side of one penny token. (19068660236).jpg
• File:Souvenir ashtray from Preketes Bros. Sugar Bowl restaurant, S. Main Street, Ann Arbor, Michigan. (18632954879).jpg
• File:Superior Dairy Co., Ann Arbor, Michigan -- ice cream tin (18874588951).jpg
• File:Token -- BPOE Elks No. 325. (17587671954).jpg
• File:Town House Hotel souvenir glass ashtray. (19033820393).jpg
• File:Washtenaw Chapter No. 6, Royal Arch Masons -- Centennial shekel, Ann Arbor, Michigan, 1950. (18620873163).jpg

Yours sincerely, Adamant1 (talk) 18:45, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry. If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

• File:A Puzzle for Ayumu - Larry Fulton Postcard (14331531493).jpg

And also:

• File:A Puzzle for Kurasawa - Larry Fulton Postcard (14307997951).jpg
• File:Action Pants by Wil Stiles - Larry Fulton Postcard (12632985255).jpg
• File:Bonjour from Paris, Howdy from Texas - Larry Fulton Postcard (5335669657).jpg
• File:Greetings from America, 2008 - Larry Fulton Postcard (5335172679).jpg
• File:Greetings from Twin Palms, Palm Springs, California, 2010 - Larry Fulton Postcard (5336298176).jpg
• File:Say Cheese! Wichita, 2011 - Larry Fulton Postcard (6486224717).jpg
• File:Sink the Tea Party, A Toxic Brew for America - Larry Fulton Postcard (6265695321).jpg
• File:Stand With Oakland - Larry Fulton Postcard (6486240789).jpg

Yours sincerely, Adamant1 (talk) 15:56, 3 September 2025 (UTC)